Rank 4 lightbringer? - Guild Wars Forums

HTW · Mar 05, 2007, 02:12 PM // 14:12

ive been reading a build on guildwiki and ive heard from other people and they all say you need rank4 in doa to be sucesful.
the guildwiki has a seperate build for rank4 + lightbringers and below rank4 has a seperate build.
why are there 2 diffrent builds? i just wanted to know why a rank3 or below couldnt use the build as it says it cant be acheived without rank4?

ZenRgy · Mar 05, 2007, 02:31 PM // 14:31

Lightbringer doesn't make a huge difference imo. I went in as a lightbringer r1.

It may make things quicker as a nuker, or make tanking easier, I really don't see it making or breaking the outcome of a group.

Keithark · Mar 05, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34

makes the lightbringer gaze way more effective

HTW · Mar 05, 2007, 07:16 PM // 19:16

well thnkz for that,the build is designed for nuking and do massive damage in short time if that makes a diffrence,but thnkz all the same

Keithark · Mar 05, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

key to DOA is lots of damage very quickly and therefore it is easier to do it if you are doing 20% more damage than 15% or less..it may have to do with calculations that GW "nerds" do to find breaking points as to what is the minimum need to make a specific build work (for example gaze hits your target and 1 other target for each rank so rank 4 can hit 5 enemy at same time...say 4 (because the monks and bip'er and warrior are not attacking) players hit a target with 4 other enemies around it if they are all rank 4 or above each enemy is hit if they are rank 3 or below one gets left out and can kill the tank, break aggro and go for casters, etc...my guess is that same goes for any other skill....if you are LB 4 and normal attack damage is 100 then you now hit for 120..so you and 3 others hitting enemy with that skill = 480 damage..if their max hp is 960 then 2 hits from everyone means target is dead but 2 from everyone at LB 3 means they are still alive..I would guess thi is why they say must have LB 4 for that specific build. It is probably not 100% a must but makes things go way smoother

lennymon · Mar 05, 2007, 09:13 PM // 21:13

The OP is talking about a specific build Keithark. It's not a team one...
The Lightbringer level isn't about gaze as much as it's about +damage. You can certainly take many out at a lower LB level, but below level 4 just the monks are more challenging is all ([wiki]Divine Boon[/wiki] with [wiki]Blessed Light[/wiki] and [wiki]Reversal of Damage[/wiki]).

Mar 05, 2007, 02:12 PM // 14:12	#1
HTW Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mk, Uk Guild: Heirs Of Anarion [HA]	Rank 4 lightbringer? ive been reading a build on guildwiki and ive heard from other people and they all say you need rank4 in doa to be sucesful. the guildwiki has a seperate build for rank4 + lightbringers and below rank4 has a seperate build. why are there 2 diffrent builds? i just wanted to know why a rank3 or below couldnt use the build as it says it cant be acheived without rank4?

Mar 05, 2007, 02:31 PM // 14:31	#2
ZenRgy Zookeeper Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader Guild: ҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&# Profession: N/E	Lightbringer doesn't make a huge difference imo. I went in as a lightbringer r1. It may make things quicker as a nuker, or make tanking easier, I really don't see it making or breaking the outcome of a group. Last edited by ZenRgy; Mar 05, 2007 at 02:34 PM // 14:34..

Mar 05, 2007, 02:34 PM // 14:34	#3
Keithark Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO] Profession: E/Me	makes the lightbringer gaze way more effective

Mar 05, 2007, 07:16 PM // 19:16	#4
HTW Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mk, Uk Guild: Heirs Of Anarion [HA]	well thnkz for that,the build is designed for nuking and do massive damage in short time if that makes a diffrence,but thnkz all the same

Mar 05, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03	#5
Keithark Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO] Profession: E/Me	key to DOA is lots of damage very quickly and therefore it is easier to do it if you are doing 20% more damage than 15% or less..it may have to do with calculations that GW "nerds" do to find breaking points as to what is the minimum need to make a specific build work (for example gaze hits your target and 1 other target for each rank so rank 4 can hit 5 enemy at same time...say 4 (because the monks and bip'er and warrior are not attacking) players hit a target with 4 other enemies around it if they are all rank 4 or above each enemy is hit if they are rank 3 or below one gets left out and can kill the tank, break aggro and go for casters, etc...my guess is that same goes for any other skill....if you are LB 4 and normal attack damage is 100 then you now hit for 120..so you and 3 others hitting enemy with that skill = 480 damage..if their max hp is 960 then 2 hits from everyone means target is dead but 2 from everyone at LB 3 means they are still alive..I would guess thi is why they say must have LB 4 for that specific build. It is probably not 100% a must but makes things go way smoother

Mar 05, 2007, 09:13 PM // 21:13	#6
lennymon Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle Guild: Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	The OP is talking about a specific build Keithark. It's not a team one... The Lightbringer level isn't about gaze as much as it's about +damage. You can certainly take many out at a lower LB level, but below level 4 just the monks are more challenging is all ([wiki]Divine Boon[/wiki] with [wiki]Blessed Light[/wiki] and [wiki]Reversal of Damage[/wiki]).